Hello again, Babette,

>>"I don't agree with you that Bill Gates hired assassins. I don't like his funding of population control, but that is different to hired guns. You just make wild assertions - according to you anyone with any wealth or any land has murdered someone or many people."

     Brad Will, Emilio Alonso Fabian, Jose Alberto Lopez Bernal, Fidel Sanchez Garcia, and Esteban Zurita Lopez. These are the names of some of the people who have been assassinated in Mexico, when Microsoft's supported government opened fire on crowds of men, women, and children. More than twenty were killed. This was 2006. As you can, see, Andrew Carnegie's 1892 execution of workers in the Homestead Strike wasn't just a careless incident -- it was a real trend that is a definite part of Capitalist society. A century later, and your system is still hanging up the bodies of the dead and denying the smell. Oh, and then there's human rights issues in Taiwan, South/North Korea, and China, other places where union organizers are typically executed or put through forced labor. (Read the wikipedia articles for "Human Rights in..." and then those nations.)

     Ah, yes, I can see you family compassion among Catholics, especially caring for a dominant Catholic nation where white Imperialists still oppress the population. Yes, deny it all together! When the Church blessed the chains of the slave and the chambers of the death camps, they weren't doing anything wrong. Even if it meant Catholics becoming slaves and victims. Quite a morality -- it doesn't even extend to those who are similar to you. They don't even exist.

>>"This is nonsense - live in the real world. You could redistribute all the arable land in the world, and in ten years time, some would own more, others would lose what they had by their own stupidity or vice."

     I'll just repeat myself since you did...

"If everything was divided into tiny portions, the worst human beings would use artillery to claim their neighbor's plot, and the problem would begin again. A tiny portion is meaningless, anyway. What's a mechanic going to do with a turbine, and not the assembly line? What about a generator and not the iron press it powers? What about a canal and not the watermill it powers? That would be individualist capitalism.... Socialism is collective -- all of society's productive property is collectively owned by everyone."

>>"And communal ownership does not work - the Soviet Union tried it and it caused famines."

     Did the Soviet Union give everyone the right to own the land? No. Then was it communal? No.

     You shouldn't believe everything that every government tells you.

Sincerely,
Andy Carloff

"Miss Edelsohn refused to be censured by the police and refused to give the bond of $300. She declared a hunger-strike if sent to prison, as a protest against her sentence of ninety days imprisonment. She was sent to the workhouse but was transferred to the City Prison, Long Island. The Free Speech League appealed her case meanwhile getting Miss Edelsohn out of bail, April 25th, which for the time being terminated her hunger strike."

"Pending her appeal Miss Edelsohn continued her agitation against the United States becoming involved in war with Mexico and for the sympathetic strike for the miners in Colorado. It was in connection with this work that she participated in the meetings at Tarrytown where she was arrested with fourteen others for attempting to speak on the Colorado situation at Fountain Square, Tarrytown, N.Y."
          --Margaret Sanger, 1914
          "The History of the Hunger-Strike"